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    Default Hanhart chronograph from Battle of Britain period

    I am a completely new member to ATG and a novice in the watch collecting arena(my real knowledge is
    C18th English porcelain!) so I am hoping for help!

    I am trying to investigate a Hanhart chronograph of the two button type which was

    "confiscated" from a German airman who crashed in Kent during the early
    part of 1940 i.e. in the Battle of Britain months. (This historical information was given
    to me by an old school friend who has asked me to help him find out more about his watch -
    I believe the information to be correct as the watch belonged to his father who was a senior
    military intelligence officer.)


    The mechanism works and keeps good time but only if the stop watch is working also.
    If the stop watch button is pushed, then the watch as a whole stops. I do not know what
    the lower button is meant to do - currently it doesn't appear to do anything.

    There is a number on the movement which appears to be 14627.

    From the few images I have found on-line for these original 1940s chronographs,
    the word "shockproof" which is on the face of this example is unusual and may be
    rare(though I would have thought all the watches would have been shockproof)

    The winder button looks to be a replacement and doubtless the bracelet is a later
    replacement also. I think that there should have been a bezel ring to the front
    and indeed my friend thinks he remembers seeing it but hasn't found it amongst
    his father's effects.

    It seems that dating these chronographs is difficult as there is little information
    about movement numbers.

    Any comments, help or information would be very welcome!

    Many thanks

    Peter
    (Samuelagain)

    PS I have no idea if the pics will be added - not too good at this sort of thing!
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    Sorry to tell you this is post war. A Hanhart 417 civilian Steve McQueen owned one and used it when racing motorcycles. I have a military issued one. Here is mine below


    Tell your friend to find a competent watchmaker Al who owns this forum mite be able to service it for you if your in England if a incompetent watchmaker screws it up parts are rare as hens teeth cost me 600 US for a service due to a minute counter gear parts are not cheap so don't use it until serviced . It's a fly-back chronograph the top pusher will start the sweep hand and stop it. The bottom pusher will reset it after you hit the top pusher to stop it and if the sweep hand is moving the bottom pusher will reset it and it will restart why it's a fly back. There is a link below about Hanharts a thread I started at the MWR forum you will see what a WW2 Hanhart looks like. Also the crown is wrong on your friends Hanhart looks like a replacement and missing bezel ring and looks like the 417E stainless steel case mine is a plated case so a 417.



    Let's see your Hanharts
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    Here is a issued Hanhart 417ES same case as the one you posted the case back cover the same. Made in the 1950's
    Hanhart 417 ES anyone? | Omega Forums

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    yes what he said..... it is a post war piece but still great.....
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    Many thanks for the information - River Rat and Al. (Yes, UK based) I did post a reply a few weeks ago but for some reason it has not appeared(ATG admin was meant to be checking it before posting apparently). My old school friend's father left a note with the watch saying he wore it till 1975 and it was in that note that
    the 1940s Battle of Britain info was written. I know that his father was a very reliable man and can therefore only imagine that he must have been given the watch after the war (presumably from what you have written RR, this must have been in or around 1950) and that historic information told to him was given
    incorrectly (and no doubt innocently) at that time and he had no reason not to think it correct. He recorded the information and finally passed it on.
    Sort of Chinese whispers.

    My friend is very disappointed of course and I think will now not keep the watch as it no longer holds the WW11 memory of his father that he believed to be
    the case and will probably consign it to auction.

    Again, many thanks. Best wishes Peter (Samuelagain)

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    no problem... it is a still a great watch...... thanks for posting.. Al
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