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    Default Sturmanskie 31681

    This is inbound from the US of A (ironically) at the moment, thanks to Brendan/Argon for the heads up.

    Soviet Air Force Sturmanskie ('Navigator') 31681 issued in/dated 1989. Calibre: 31659, which is a modified, (to hack), Poljot 3133 which itself is a modified Valjoux 7734.



    I'll add pics etc when I get it, but from what I can see the condition looks very good.
    (Sellers pics)

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    It is indeed in great condition, Andy. Looking forward to seeing those pics when it arrives.

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    I've said this before but it won't hurt to repeat myself - I reckon these are real sleepers - they are already difficult to find in good condition. The military-only hacking version of the Sturmanskie was made for the Soviet Air Force in the '80s and early '90s, no doubt spending time in MiG 29s...



    They also have a great space heritage - as well as Russian pilots, the 31659 was also used by many cosmonauts, including Toyohiro Akiyama, the Japanese cosmonaut-journalist known as the world's first space tourist...



    A little known fact is that cosmonaut Alexander Poleshuk, engineer for the Soyuz TM-16/MIR-13 expedition, wore a 31659 Sturmanskie during his 179 days flight in 1993, including during his EVAs - there are a lot of "space" watches but not very many have actually been outside the capsule (on numerous occasions) like this one.

    Here's Alex holding the watches he wore in space...



    ...and here is his actual 31659 Sturmanskie...



    There has long been a suggestion that Poljot bought the 7734 tooling from Valjoux. I think it was Lysander (?) on another forum who dismantled a Valjoux 7734 and a 3133 to compare them - from what I remember they are very similar but Poljot certainly improved upon it.

    The later "tourist" versions commonly seen on ebay can't hold a candle to these earlier issued versions.

    Looking forward to seeing more, Andy.

    Regards

    Jon'.

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    Hey Andy, did this Sturmanskie arrive? If so, hope you're happy with it, and would be great to see some pics

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    I pick it up tomorrow after another protracted international relay, I'll pop some pics up later in the week - looking forward to getting it at last!

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    After a bit of journey it's here at last -



    Quite colourful -


    The lume on this one is in great condition:


    Notice the conical pushers:


    Nice case graining, also in good condition:


    Suitably stark case back -


    And with a Cold War rival from the same decade -

    (You'll be familiar with this set Brendan!)

    I've no idea whether the paper relates to the watch, perhaps 'a' watch, maybe not this one though.

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    Very cool.

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    Aside from the provenance and history, is there any real dif between the issued pieces and the watches meant for the man on the street? Also, is it running well?

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    Andy, I see you got what appears to be the original bracelet, too. Bonus!

    The papers are a "passport," essentially warranty documents and operating instructions. If you can get photos of just the papers, I might be able to decipher a little bit of it. The number of stamps on it suggests that the documents are authentic at least!

    I've got only two Russian watches now, a Raketa 24-hour and an homage to your Sturmanskie:



    Yours is nicer, though. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattjmcd View Post
    Aside from the provenance and history, is there any real dif between the issued pieces and the watches meant for the man on the street? Also, is it running well?
    It seems to be running fine so far Matt, I've had to leave it for a few days but will give it a longer run in the week. The chrono works well, although a slight flicker on the minute register - nothing an old movement can't account for though.
    The main difference between this and the civilian counterpart is mainly that the movement is modified to hack in this one and the case is solid stainless as opposed to plated over base metal in the civilian. I think the later (but still old) civilian ones also grew a second 9 o'clock crown and internal bezel. There may be other differences but those are the ones I know about at any rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by danomar View Post
    Andy, I see you got what appears to be the original bracelet, too. Bonus!

    The papers are a "passport," essentially warranty documents and operating instructions. If you can get photos of just the papers, I might be able to decipher a little bit of it. The number of stamps on it suggests that the documents are authentic at least!

    I've got only two Russian watches now, a Raketa 24-hour and an homage to your Sturmanskie:



    Yours is nicer, though. Enjoy!
    Cheers Gary - the seller sold me the watch with box and paperwork but did point out that he couldn't be sure the papers belonged to the watch. I'll get a better pic up but I don't think it looks like it does belong, I think the original paperwork had the 31659 movement number printed somewhere. I'll do a pic and any old BRIXMIS can decrypt it for me!

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