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    Default SAAF Lemania 5012

    I was planning to wait for the GTG to debut this watch but I collected it this morning and can't wait that long. The cat was already out of the bag anyway...

    During 1980 the SAAF procured 2 batches of these 5012s, each of 400. This one is no. 51 of the first batch. As the 5012s had anodized aluminium bezels it is almost impossible to find them with the bezel in this condition today.

    Movement:
    Cal - 5012
    Type - Automatic
    BPH - 21600
    Size - 31mm
    Power Reserve - 45 Hours
    Jewels - 17
    Hacking - Yes

    According to the SAAF watchmaker, some of the remaining Lemanias were sold off to the SAAF personnel in the early '90s at a mere 35 South African Rand each (that will more or less buy you a McDonald’s happy meal plus an apple pie today). Many of these were returned to the stores and exchanged for the then “new” Seikos. When the SAAF realised this sadly they destroyed all remaining Lemanias still in storage as well as any returned by pilots later on.





    The 5012 is going on either a black or "Real Bond" Nato.

    Here's an example of what the 5012 would have flown in - a SAAF Cheetah in very appropriate livery...



    Regards

    Jon'.
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    I like that a lot.

    The pushers and crown appear to be very flush...?
    Geoff

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    Now that is a nice piece... yet another i have turned down in the past and never owned.... several different version of that watch I believe....

    Very cool.... this is the GMT version I turned down...Doh!

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    Must admit that I was let into this secret a little while ago, and did a bit of digging around as soon as Jon' mentioned that he'd found this style of SAAF Lemania. I'm blown away, to be honest. I knew it was a good looking piece, but it's stunning. I think I can see where Sinn got their idea for their stripped down non-chrono version (EZM1?) but this is just lovely; details that particularly strike me are the dotted inner track and the perfectly understated sub-dial. Well done. I know you've been looking for a while. Can't wait to get a proper look at it!

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    One of my regular Lemania searches came up with the advert for this very watch (and Jon's "you have e-mail" response) a while back, so I had cobbled together where it was going. . Congratulations (now that I can say it publicly).

    This one really is a good example by all accounts - and it certainly looks it. These are hen's teeth in any condition, so this one really is fairly described by the somewhat over-used phrase "rare". The hen's upper left canine.

    It is one of Lemania's best in-house designs, imho, with ultimate chrono-reading clarity from the second markers (without fraction seconds) on both the dial and the chapter ring, numeration for seconds (and minutes) only, and the single sub-dial for running indication only.

    You must be very pleased, and you've every right to be. I shall look forward to prizing it off you for a short while at the GTG - it'll be one of the stars of the show.

    Well done Jon

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    Default A beauty Jon

    I almost got one of those about 18 months ago, but missed it by a whisker. Although usually associated with the SAAF, a few also made their way into the RAAF. An example sold a year or two ago on MWR.
    As far as issued Australian watches go, this and the Certina DS-2 PH1000M for the RAN clearance divers would be rare birds to own.
    Can't wait to see more pics - that is just stunning.
    I saw your purchase too - was waiting to see when it surfaced.
    Dave J

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    Before anyone gets too excited... I prized this from Jon's grasp tonight and got a pretty good look at it. And here's my assessment:

    First off, it's more impressive than the pictures. It wears bigger, and it looks cleaner.

    Secondly, there's obviously something going on with the 5012 movement or the case, as it weighs a ton. It has real presence.

    Thirdly, it's a stunner. The inner track. The sub-dial constant seconds. Even the slightly wimpy seconds hand. They are all perfect. Really, really nice. And the caseback engravings aren't bad either.

    In summary. I've no idea where he got it, or how he got it into the country. But it's a beauty. A real gem. Just needs a decent 20mm strap now... Al?

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    Default lovely looking watch...

    Morning

    I like this , I like like it alot - would really like to see it in the 'flesh' as 31mm is about 10mm less than what I'm used to wearing - of course I might not be able to get it off then...

    Nice addition -
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    That is really nice. Congrats on a great pickup

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    Morning

    I like this , I like like it alot - would really like to see it in the 'flesh' as 31mm is about 10mm less than what I'm used to wearing - of course I might not be able to get it off then...

    Nice addition -
    Neil
    Neil - While the movement might only be 31mm, the SAAF is a bit bigger .

    With bezel / case it's a 40mm watch, I'd say. If you do get your hands on it, go for a bit of mis-direction ("Jon', is that EP120 doing a flyby?") and then run fast.

    M

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