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    Default Incoming Hamilton Model 21 Ships chronometer

    Been wanting one for years saw this one with a buy it now for all most half what they go for so jumped on it. Should be delievered tomorrow. America before WW2 bought most of there chronometers from Europe. But when WW2 started that dried up Europe had a hard time making enough for them selfs. So Hamilton and Elgin submited there's for the Navy contract. Hamilton won. What they made in one month was what the world made in one year before WW2 a big achivement.





    As you see a Fusse Movement. And the paper work of the ship it came off of. Info on the ship below. I will post more info later when I have time.
    Stores Ship Photo Index
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    Well just got it back from service last Friday. Before the service the movement had a few problems I noticed when you wind it you did not hear the clicks and if you winded it when it was running the second hand would go backwards a little and the movement would stop and the brass tub there is a spring loaded cover you move for the key hole were you wind it did not operate good. Well all those are fixed now and only one part replace due to wear the detent trip spring. She keeps good time when timed +0.5s for two days But after getting shipped back from Arizona to MT mite of changed a little it's been running for 5 days now and is four seconds fast so maybe a 1/2 second a day fast. And I got a new strap for the outer box and found a extra serial number plaque inside the inner gimble box so put it were one was missing on the outer box. One thing different with chronometer movements if you wind it at a dead stop it don't automatically start the movement running you need to give the movement a gentle twist to get the balance wheel going maybe one reason they say wind it every day kind of like giving a car a push start to get the engine running. If you have the movement out of the tub you can use a camel hair small brush to get the balance wheel going. Here is a video of what I am talking about. Did find out the year mine was made even got the copy out of the Hamilton factory log of the manufacture date 1945 so made about the end of WW2.
    Hamilton Model 21 Marine Chronometer, Part 3 of 3 - YouTube


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    The movement back in the gimble box I only sent the movement in the brass tub to the watchmaker less damage can happen and cheaper shipping.
    A little history on them
    Hamilton No. 1 Box Chronometer | National Museum of American History
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    A cool read about more history on these.
    https://nawcc.org/images/stories/pub.../395_56_63.pdf

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    brilliant buy... I always wanted a proper ships chronometer but they have gotten pricier and pricier.... many of these gimbled chronometers were made in my home town of Liverpool for the Navy... this Hamilton is a beauty.... great pics and history...
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    Al your right they have been pricier and all ways seemed that way since I been collecting military timepieces. Been wanting one of these for years but the price all ways put me off. Did get a Hamilton model 22 it's smaller brother due to they were cheaper many years ago. Every now and then I do a search on Ebay for one just incase a fair priced one would pop up. And this one did 1700.00 US buy now. Even in the old days when I was searching for one they sold for 2000-2500 so figure I will never get a better deal so pulled the trigger. It did need a service real bad so had that done and that increased it's value more than what I have in it. There are two on US Ebay now for 2900.00 they will never see that price. Some sellers on ebay have no clue what these are worth and have them over priced and they don't factor getting them serviced so they are not a wall hanger and only a few clock and watch repairman know how to work on them the detent the most important part in the movement if the Chronometer not corked properly in shipping gets damaged is a 600 dollar part if you can find one. I was lucky to find some one who knows how to work on these did have to ship it to another state no one in MT could of handled it. And the seller knew how to cork the balance wheel. Al one of these days I would like to check out the British Naval observatory just to see the first chronometer made by John Harrison been on my bucket list. Our Naval Observatory in the USA they just let our history disappear and kind of tough to visit due to the vice President residence is on the grounds of it and our Navy destroyed most of the documents on all the issued chronometers since they are not used any more a great loss to history would of been cool if they made a museum about it with original equipment and the vintage clocks they used and vintage US Navy timepieces they worked on.
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